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February 1, 2006 PLAN COMMISSION
TOWN OF GRAFTON
PLAN COMMISSION
February 1, 2006
Official Minutes
I. CALL TO ORDER
A. Chairman Bartel called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
B. Pledge to the Flag
C. Present:
Chairman Lester A. Bartel, Jr.
Commissioner Bob Clapper
Commissioner Lyle Sperber
Commissioner Karron Stockwell
Commissioner Bob Wolf
Commissioner Lou Hefle
Alt. Commissioner Craig Butler
Town Clerk Wendy Weeks
Administrative Assistant Lila Schwan
Town Engineer Kevin Kimmes
Building Inspector Rick Fellenz
D. Absent: Commissioner Mike Ansay
II. ASSURANCE OF PROPER NOTICE
A. Town Clerk Wendy Weeks assured that the Agenda was properly noticed.
III. REVIEW AND APPROVE PREVIOUS MINUTES
A. ACTION: Commissioner Wolf motioned to accept the Minutes of the December Plan
Commission Meeting. Commissioner Hefle seconded. Motion carried unanimously.
B. ACTION: Commissioner Stockwell moved to accept the Minutes of the January Plan
Commission Meeting. Commissioner Wolf seconded. Motion carried unanimously.
IV. NEW BUSINESS
A. Astro Wings- Conditional Use Permit Renewal – Discussion and possible action.
1. Mr. Scott Orten reported that there have been no complaints from neighbors. He
further reported that their sanctioning body, the American Model Association, has
changed their guidelines in the last year regarding appointing a safety person, which
was done, and they have also changed their guidelines in regards to noise. The old
guidelines stated 90 db at 10 feet, and in 2005, it was raised to 94 db on grass at 3
meters, and that is the only change Astro Wings is asking for.
2. A sound meter has been purchased for over $300.00.
3. Mr. Scott Orten is the sound control officer. It is an appointed position.
4. Sound testing is done with every new model, and records are kept.
5. Mr. Orten reported that the club logs an average of 25 hours per week, including
silent flight (gliders).
6. ACTION: Commissioner Hefle motioned to grant a 5 year renewal to the
Conditional Use Permit with amending condition #1 to state 94 db at 3 meters,
and amending condition #6 to state 45 hours per week total with the hours
being Monday through Thursday-10:00 am to dusk, and Friday through
Sunday-10:00 am to 5:00 pm. Commissioner Wolf seconded. Motion carried
unanimously.
B. Town Code Language Revision Scope of Services – Discussion and possible action
C. River Forest LLC- Contract for Payment of Services-Discussion and possible action.
1. Town Engineer Kevin Kimmes reported this is for potential revisions to the
conservation overlay district in the town code. This work would use the existing
general services contractual agreement between the Town and Bonestroo, and
document in writing the additional studies and work.
Town of Grafton Plan Commission Official Minutes, February 1, 2006 Page 2 of 4
2. River Forest LLC requested the option from the Town to look into a code change for
the entire town, to allow more flexibility, and also requested town staff do the code
change because of their familiarity with the language.
3. The specific changes requested by River Forest are:
a. An exemption for the RDCO to occur on parcels smaller than 35 acres
b. Options for providing open space such as a cash contribution for the Town to
be used for open space purposes.
c. A bonus ratio to include potential town homes and condominiums, and the
like.
4. Mr. Kimmes stated this would be an agreement between Bonestroo and the Town,
and the Town would need to enter a separate agreement between the developer and
the Town.
5. Chairman Bartel stated this is similar to what the Town did with Lakeside
Development, where the Town agreed to suspend all timelines for application and
they helped draft the ordinance.
6. Commissioner Clapper stated this does involve money.
7. Chairman Bartel stated this agreement needs to clearly state in language that there
is no recourse if the outcome is not what the applicant desires, but what the Town
desires.
8. Mr. Kimmes stated the estimated cost of $10,000.00 would be about half of the
Town’s engineering budget, and would be cost prohibitive to the Town.
9. Chairman Bartel stated that as long as the agreement clearly spells out whose
interest the contract staff is working for, and no results are guaranteed to the
satisfaction of the applicant, and there are no refunds if applicant does not get what
they want.
10. Mr. Kimmes reported that the River Forest group could only access staff during the
public meetings that will take place.
11. Chairman Bartel stated that Town Council would prefer that applicant hire their own
staff, and bring their presentation to the Town for review.
12. Mr. Kimmes reported that in Minnesota, it was a requirement that Bonestroo design
the developments, and the developer paid the bills.
13. Mr. Kimmes stated that the contract has not come back from Counsel, and this
contract would go before the Board.
14. ACTION: Commissioner Clapper motioned to recommend to the Board to
proceed in executing a contract with River Forest LLC, and in executing a
contract with Bonestroo to provide the services outlined in the scope of
services, pending the signed contract with River Forest, and to deliver to the
Board recommended safeguards and concerns of Town Counsel.
Commissioner Hefle seconded. Motion carried unanimously.
15. Town Engineer stated that he is looking for a Special Meeting to include the Plan
Commission, Town Board, Open Space Commission, PDI, and Bonestroo on March
15, 2006.
Town of Grafton Plan Commission Official Minutes, February 1, 2006 Page 3 of 4
V. ADVISORY DISCUSSIONS.
A. The Palmisano Companies LTD-Sal Palmisano-Agent/Leben Family Trust-Owner –
Discussion concerning a R-3 residential subdivision at Tax Key #06-031-02-001.00 46
acres, Tax Key #06-031-02-002.00 34 acres, Tax Key #06-031-13-001.00 56.66 acres, Tax
Key #06-031-13-000.00, Tax Key #06-031-14-002.00 17.77 acres, Tax Key #06-031-14-
003.00 35.55 acres, Tax Key #06-031-14-000.00, and Tax Key #06-031-16-002.00 2.85
acres, Pioneer Road.
1. Town Engineer Kevin Kimmes reported this development is located at the northwest
corner of Pioneer and Port Washington Roads. Several parcels are included with A-
1, A-2, R-2, and B-1 zoning. The land use plan shows all parcels slated for R-3
zoning.
a. It will be a 220 acre subdivision, with 176 half acre lots and 43.4% open
space. It is the largest subdivision proposal to date. This would be the first
conservation overlay subdivision plan in the R-3 zoning district.
b. Engineering does have concerns with the close proximity of the homes, and
have submitted the layout to the Fire Department for their review. Mequon
requires an installed 30,000 gallon cistern within 1000 feet of every home.
c. Engineering will also require a traffic analysis to be done and submitted.
2. Town Planner Jamie Rybarczyk stated this is a medium to high density development,
with continuous open space.
a. He noted that the open space is passive in nature, and did not see any parks
or active uses of the open spaces.
b. Mr. Rybarczyk reported the code states that the home clusters should not be
more than 10 lots, and after 10, provide a 50 foot buffer of open space, or
after 10 lots, provide a street boulevard.
3. Mr. Sal Palmisano requested a variance for some lots to be less than the 125 foot lot
frontage requirement, since the code only requires 120 foot frontage on 3 and 5 acre
lots. This would probably be built in 3 to 4 phases. This will be moderate, more
affordable housing in the 1800 to 3000 sq. ft range.
4. Town Engineer Kevin Kimmes stated this development will have a road connected to
Lakefield Road, and Pioneer Road, and if it is not connected to Cardinal Road, the
Town will want a connection to Port Washington Road. More than 2 entrances will
be required for 1700 vehicle trips per day, to distribute the traffic and for emergency
vehicles.
5. Chairman Bartel said that compared to lower density developments, the open space
needs to be a working green space that people can enjoy which keeps the rural-
urban mix, since there are more lots in closer proximity to each other. Recreation
areas, like small parks, in each of the clusters would be a good thing to look at.
6. No Action
VI. RESIDENT CORRESPONDENCE/PERSONS WISHING TO BE HEARD
A. Mr. Marko Musich inquired as to where the Town was in regards to the Bed and Breakfast
Conditional Use amendment.
1. Town Clerk Wendy Weeks reported that Town Counsel recommends reconvening
JETZCO, and has forwarded the information to Brad Steinke, Mequon Planner.
Town of Grafton Plan Commission Official Minutes, February 1, 2006 Page 4 of 4
VII. TOWN STAFF UPDATES
A. Town Engineer
1. Pavement Maintenance Program
a. Mr. Kimmes submitted the draft pavement maintenance program which
includes road ratings, options for improvements, financing options, a draft 5
year capital improvement program, etc. This will be brought before the Board.
2. MLG – Port Ulao Estates Update
a. Mr. Kimmes reported that MLG is willing to pay up to 50% or $20,000,
whichever is less, to fix the 10 year old road problem.
3. Facility Needs Study Scope & Costs/Impact Fees
a. Mr. Kimmes reported this study ties into possible future impact fees in order to
capture some dollars for a new Town Hall. The current lease is 5 years with a
three year out. The outcome of the study would determine what kind of
dollars the town needs to be budgeting for the services that the Town
provides. The cost of this study would be approximately $10,000, to come out
of the Town Hall account. This is a formal outline of space and facility needs.
b. Commissioner Butler inquired if a survey regarding resident input could be
included in the Town newsletter, or on the web site.
4. Advisory Discussion Application & Checklist
a. Mr. Kimmes reported this application reflects more realistic costs.
5. Horse Signage
a. Mr. Kimmes reported the signs will have the horse symbol with the word
“ahead” underneath the picture, to warn people there are horse activities in
the area. Signs will go up at the 6 locations in the Town identified by Town
Building Inspector, Rick Fellenz.
b. Mr. Kimmes requested direction from the Plan Commission for study time to
look into the number of horses allowed per acre.
B. Town Building Inspector, Rick Fellenz, reported that he had received a complaint regarding
a wood burning outdoor furnace, and debris. Mr. Fellenz determined that the yard was
cluttered, and did not observe smoke in close proximity to the neighbors. We have no
ordinance against it right now. Communities are beginning to address this issue.
VIII. ANY MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS DEEMED PERTINENT BY LAW.
A. None
IX. ADJOURN
A. ACTION: A motion was made by Commissioner Clapper to adjourn. Seconded by
Commissioner Wolf. Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted,
Wendy Weeks, Town Clerk
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